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Lake Ontario - Open Waters from Hamlin Beach to Sodus Bay Marine Forecast


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The Marine Weather Forecast In Detail:
LOZ063 Forecast Issued: 955 AM EST Thu Dec 07 2023

Rest Of Today...South Winds 10 To 15 Knots Becoming West. Rain And Snow Late This Morning, Then Rain This Afternoon. Waves 1 To 2 Feet Building To 2 To 4 Feet.
Tonight...West Winds 10 Knots Or Less Becoming South. A Chance Of Rain Showers Early. Waves 1 To 3 Feet Subsiding To 1 Foot Or Less.
Friday...Southeast Winds 5 To 15 Knots. Waves 1 To 3 Feet.
Friday Night...Southeast Winds 15 To 20 Knots Becoming South. Waves 1 To 3 Feet.
Saturday...Southeast Winds 15 To 25 Knots Becoming South. Rain Saturday Night. Waves 2 To 4 Feet Building To 3 To 5 Feet.
Sunday...South Winds 15 To 25 Knots Becoming West. Rain. Waves 2 To 4 Feet Building To 5 To 8 Feet. Waves Occasionally Around 10 Feet.
Monday...West Winds 15 To 25 Knots Becoming Southwest. Rain Showers Likely During The Day, Then A Chance Of Rain Showers Monday Night. Waves 6 To 9 Feet Subsiding To 4 To 7 Feet. Waves Occasionally Around 11 Feet.
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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Buffalo NY
230pm EST Thu Dec 7 2023

A warm front stalled over central New York will produce some additional light snow across the eastern Lake Ontario region through this evening. Notably milder air will overspread the region to end the week with temperatures climbing into the 50s by Saturday afternoon. A low pressure system will bring moderate to heavy rain across the area Saturday night into Sunday. Rain will change over to snow Sunday night.

Near Term - Through Friday
A mid-level warm front has stalled out from the eastern Lake Ontario region into central NY this afternoon. The previously narrow band of light to moderate snow associated with this front has since diminished into a broader area of light snow as its eastward progression slowed, with cloudy albeit drier weather back across WNY as cloud tops are below the DGZ. Some limited lake enhancement has developed east/northeast of Lake Erie as 850H temps are marginally cold enough and the flow aligns down the long axis of the lake, though the increasing WAA (Warm Air Advection - the movement of warm air) regime has already greatly diminished the strength of this band. Surface temps in the wake of the front are elevation dependent though still largely above freezing, supporting a mix of mostly light rain and snow. While the accumulating snows have longed since ended across WNY, some nuisance accumulations (generally under an inch) are possible east of Lake Ontario through this evening as the boundary shifts east and additional lake enhancement develops.

The stronger warm air advection will kick in from the west late this evening and persist overnight tonight as high pressure ridging builds over the central Great Lakes and a low pressure system moves across the northern Plains. This will effectively squash the last of the lingering lake response off Lake Erie, though it will likely persist for longer off Lake Ontario. Increased low-level forcing and moisture below the DGZ with surface temps at or below freezing in close proximity to the lingering boundary support a slight chance for some freezing drizzle for a few hours overnight, mainly after midnight across portions of eastern Oswego and southern Lewis counties. Temperatures should hold steady in the low to mid 30s overnight back across the rest of WNY.

The stalled boundary will finally shove off to the east Friday as the axis of a mid-level ridge moves over the region. High pressure subsidence will ensure a dry day with some clearing from the west in the late morning, though additional clouds will likely move back in later in the afternoon. Light southerly flow and WAA will boost high temperatures some 10 degrees warmer compared to those seen today, potentially even surpassing the 50 degree mark along the Lake Erie shoreline and in the typical warm spots in the Genesee Valley.

Short Term - Friday Night Through Saturday Night
Mid level ridge axis centered across New York Friday night will slide east into New England Saturday. This will support an elongated surface high across the East Coast. Overall, with the building heigheights and subsidence from the high will promote a dry night along with a fairly dry day Saturday. Temperatures will continue to be on the warmer side with lows Friday night ranging in the upper 30s across the areas east of Lake Ontario to the low to mid 40s elsewhere. The warm spell will continue into Saturday as southerly flow will aid in some downsloping and support temperatures to warm up into the upper 40s across the Tug Hill region and in the low to mid 50s elsewhere.

Meanwhile, a deep trough will advance from the central United States and support a surface low and cold front to push across the central Great Lakes and Ohio Valley late Saturday and Saturday night. As the front approached the western doorstep of western New York, chances for rain showers will increase, with the best timing of the heavier precipitation arriving around daybreak Sunday. This all being said, the combination of the trough and the aforementioned surface high pressure on the Eastern Seaboard will funnel in moisture to the frontal zone not only from the Gulf of Mexico but also the Atlantic Ocean. Overall this will support moderate rain to fall late Saturday night. Otherwise, the warm mild temperatures will continue Saturday night with lows in the low to mid 40s region wide.

Long Term - Sunday Through Thursday
Active weather still in store Sunday into Monday with moderate to heavy rain on Sunday changing to several inches of wet snow Sunday night into early Monday from west to east.

After much uncertainty the last few days, models and ensembles are more or less on board with farther east track to wavy frontal boundary and waves of low pressure moving along it Sunday into Monday morning. Latest GFS (Global Forecast System) did trend a bit west on Sunday night with the heavier Quantitative Precipitation Forecast/snow, but also is an outlier now compared to its ensembles and other guidance/ensembles. This eastern shift occurs as shortwave trough digging across the lower Mississippi Valley on Sunday swings across the northeast by Monday, but never quite phases with northern branch shortwave trough crossing northern Ontario and the upper Great Lakes. It was only when these two branches phased did we see a strong low passing to the west of here on Sunday that was advertised in the models earlier this week. That is not there now in guidance or ensembles though. Upshot is winds for our forecast area are not looking to be as strong either Sunday with the southerlies ahead of the system or with the west-northwest winds in the cold air behind the system. Heaviest rain on Sunday in the warm sector will occur where strongest moisture advection of abnormally high PWATs (Precipitable Waters) well over the 90th percentile occurs ahead of the front (eastern Finger Lakes northward to the eastern Lake Ontario region). By late Sunday night, areas on the Tug Hill may see over 2 inches of liquid boosted by upslope flow. Farther west though, the gradient of Quantitative Precipitation Forecast will be sharper with Genesee Valley/Finger Lakes near an inch while most of western NY sees 0.5 to 0.75 inch of liquid before the rain turns to snow. This heavy rain could cause some issues as model ensembles for river forecast points indicate a low, but non-zero chance some rivers especially in the Black River basin could rise to action stage with the rain and melting snow. This will have be to be monitored as we progress into the weekend.

As the next wave of low pressure lifts by on Sunday night, good agreement that switch from rain to snow occurs as early as dusk Sunday evening for higher terrain of southwest NYS, then eventually through the evening for the rest of western NY with most locations to snow by midnight. Quick change on to the east the rest of the night. All areas will see ptype of snow by daybreak on Monday. Only exception may be right along the Lake Ontario shoreline over far se portion of the lake with ra/sn mix. It is certainly possible winter headlines may eventually be needed for the change to wet snow Sunday night into Monday, with highest chances of that from Southern Tier to the Finger Lakes and probably more so for the higher terrain east of Lake Ontario. In these spots, models and ensemble probability data suggest several inches of wet/sloppy snow could occur and it is here there is also higher signal for widespread moderate impacts on the latest Probabilistic Winter Storm Severity Index (Prob WSSI). Now even though lower elevations may not much as snow from this event compared to higher terrain (so long as the eastern trend holds), the commute on Monday morning looks difficult for all areas as rain changes to up to a few inches of slushy snow and temps will be at or just below freezing.

Steady system snow exits fairly quickly on Monday. Though there will be some scattered leftover lake effect snow, at this point it appears to be light as it will be held down by limited deep moisture and less low-level cyclonic flow as ridge slips in quickly late Monday into Monday night. Forecast soundings across the lakes Monday look quite mixed with inverted-V profile which usually is not that great for much lake effect. Does look like a seasonally cool day with a blustery NW wind.

Rest of long term looks changeable. Modest warm up on Tuesday with gusty WSW winds will be followed by cool down on Wednesday as a fairly sharp cold front drops across. Highest probability of precipitation near the lakes for now but maybe a touch of light snow for all areas on Wednesday if this front ends up having a bit more punch than shown right now. Another round of warm air advection starts up on Thursday.

Elevated winds behind a warm front that lifted north of the lakes will continue choppy, low-end SCA (Small Craft Advisory) conditions on Lake Erie through early this evening. Winds not quite as strong on Lake Ontario and are generally directed offshore.

Winds will subside overnight tonight as surface high pressure builds across and then east of the lakes. Offshore south/southeasterly winds will increase some on Friday, though remain below SCA (Small Craft Advisory) criteria through much of Saturday.

NOAA Buffalo NY Office: Watches - Warnings - Advisories

Small Craft Advisory until 7pm EST this evening for LEZ040- 041.

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